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Eh... I can't lie, I don't like this twist. I get what they were going for, but it doesn't work in my opinion because we literally only met Vecna this season. He was cool and scary, sure, but not "it was him all along" material. It just totally brings down the eldritch and unknowable factor the Mind Flayer had before this. Now, Vecna/Henry Creel being 001? Genius, I loved that twist. It was a fantastic conclusion to a mystery that was never really a mystery in the show, but that fans had endlessly speculated on. But I think it would've been better had they just kept Vecna a general or lieutenant of the Mind Flayer (as Dustin had suggested) and made him a seasonal villain, especially since the climax of the season would set up his death perfectly; he is killed, but in doing so, succeeds in his goal to open the world to the Mind Flayer and the Upside Down. I don't know, I guess I just find it extremely lackluster that this _thing_ that none of us really quite understood or knew much about just ended up being someone's self-insert and, to be honest, a pretty generic motivation compared to what was before assumed to be an unknowable motive. Especially since, again, we literally only met Vecna _this season._

I love the modern family/Happy Endings cross with the intro

Nah hiya gotta explain this Godzilla map

3:23-3:55 Dragon King Malefor certainly knows how to bargain and I love how cool he is

everytime i rewatch this scene i keep crying 💔

Eu não entendo pq aqui tá a voz da dobradora que dobrou a Lapis desde o início, mas quando o episódio lançou, veio outra. Eu queria ver a versão completa disto

I'm so happy that the mind flayer was the one who was really in control all this time. People after this scene tought that vecna created the flayer and he controlled it. Which is now proven false because of the new st stageplay about vecna. It shows that the mind flayer technically gave vecna his powers.

Demogorgon just geting his steps in

SPOILERS, Vecna doesn't create the Mind Flayer, but rather becomes one with it. I watched The First Shadow in the West End today (a canon stageplay about Vecna's backstory) and they confirmed he didn't create the Mind Flayer. It is suggested the Mind Flayer is possessing him as he is mentally broken about how much of his cruel use of his powers is done by himself Vs "him" who he warns the other characters about who Henry - later Vecna, fears hurting. He fears "him" - the Mind Flayer. Ever since Henry encountered the Upside Down, he was corrupted and is shown to be possessed by it causing his powers. Some of his hurtful deeds are in fact caused by himself such as accidentally killing a cat thinking it was a dream, but he later does appear to be possessed by a much more powerful, evil entity - the mind flayer. After the cat, he kills multiple animals but it's not shown whether that was him or if he was being possessed, and how many of these incidents he knew were dreams. When it comes to killing humans however, he is possessed by the Mind Flayer. In the end, this breaks him and he is essentially both Henry and the Mind Flayer, accepting both parts and assuming the evil, sadistic character in the series we know.

I can't believe how many things from TLOS used on Skylanders. Even more than the First Spyro Games.

as a lesbian this scene was so real

I went to school with the actor of Vicki’s Boyfriend, he was always a talented actor, super proud of him!

;-; *Why do some people in the comments still think that Vecna created the mind flayer? He didn't create it! the mind flayer has always been there, Vecna didn't create these black puffs, he just gave it or gave it the shape of a spider, as Henry loves spiders very much*

0:19 The For Sale sign has a 732 area code but 732 wasn't implemented in New Jersey until 1997

Red Dead and the Redemption: (2011) Malfor`s Dragon Scene (Moviecillps)

Holy sht he shaped the mind flayer?

You weren’t born or raised or made to be a monster you chose to be a monster, and you will die a monster

The spawn of the devil

This season was so epic. It told the complete story. Absolutely brilliant writing.

Baby Vision is literally uncanny

Agatha has the best Witch cackle I ever heard

I believe that the mind flayer was just a thoughtless hive mind with no true sentience Until 001 entered their realm and gave the mind flayer sentience by just sheerly interacting with it Kinda like at the beginning of 2001 space odyssey when the apes touched the obelisk They had never once in their lives witnessed something that was created intelligently and it awoken something inside like a light bulb moment and then it suddenly all made sense for them They just needed that slight push and that is what i believe 001 did to those creatures The mind flayer was always connected to all the other upside-down creatures but never intelligently until they met 001 So in season 3 when 11 speaks with the mind flayer posing as billy i truly believe that was the mind flayer alone speaking to her not vecna I think vecna and the mind flayer (although connected psychically) are separate entities entirely that just both have a mutual benefit from each other's goals

Basically the mind flayer was created by a delusional sociopath with an affinity for spiders.

The upside down was just a place, just a place, and the mind flayer was its brain. Vecna gave it shape and his motive but he had no way of affecting the "rightside up".... Until 11 opened the gate that shaped the upside down into a reflection of the right-side up and then the series begins with the demogorgon

this happened to me once (technically.) so me, my former crush, and our friend were walking when our friend hit my crush with her sleeve from her jacket and my crush’s eye turned red. our friend apologized and my crush, as a way of forgiving her, kissed her hand right in front of me. it was heartbreaking, but i’m never complaining about that again.

0:26 Already foreshadowing something is a tad off.

So was it vecna that was controlling the spider monster in S3?

Certified bops

I would definitely date Robin , screw you Vickie

Let’s hope he doesn’t have an army with him along with the mind flayer

Everyone at the front of the house 5:05 Agnes just chilling inside the house raiding their fridge: 👀

even without knowing the 90s 00s where easy to recognize 90s because of the radical attitude & 00s because of the humor

“I became the predator”

Yunobo’s is slower for some reason.

And this is the scene that ruined the show for me. What an awful retcon.

After Stranger Things: The First Shadow, we already know that Vecna ​​is not the real villain, the Mind Flayer is.

The whole premise of the show and even the intros are so good it’s just so cool a show where every intro changes 70s 80s 90 2000s and modern days it’s too good.

i cried of this scene because as a pansexual and lesbian girl i feel bad for robin i think robin x vickie is a wonderful ship tbh 🧡🧡🤍💖💗💓 💓💜💙

1:12 >8((((((((((((((((

its great that a show can for once convey how i've truly felt about someone...yet no one understands how it feels...

Entonces el desoyador de mente sera como un villane en la 5? Se escapo del laboratorio de los rusos

It's ann with an E lol😅

I still think Disney took a huge risk with this show and it worked out.

The mind flayer and the entity from DBD work similarly I see, just on different levels

5:23 "I KNOW WHAT U ARE DOING WANDA"

I hate this, the eldritch nature of the mind flayer was incredibly cool. To ruin it as a creation of Vecna just sucks cool from it

nah vecna be complaining about humans spoiling the Earth but he comes along and invades the mind flayer and Demogorgons/Demodogs and ruins theirs.

Bro said he knew a spot 💀

L BOZO